Understanding the Real Deal
If you’re new to Thailand’s nightlife, or even if you’re an experienced visitor, you’ve probably heard the terms “short time” and “long time” thrown around. It might seem straightforward, but guys regularly ask for clarification. It’s worth taking the time to lay it out clearly because understanding these terms can significantly impact your experience, and your wallet, here in Thailand.
So let’s dig into the differences, expectations, and strategies around short-time versus long-time arrangements.
Short Time: What It Really Means
“Short time” is exactly what it sounds like, a brief encounter. But how brief? That’s where things get a little tricky.
In the past, short time was generally understood to be a 2–3-hour experience. That usually meant enough time for chatting, relaxing, having a drink, and enjoying yourself comfortably. However, recent feedback from many brothers in the TIC community suggests the standard has shifted considerably. Nowadays, short-time arrangements often last about one hour, maybe 90 minutes if you’re lucky.
A lot depends on the girl, her schedule, and whether she’s genuinely enjoying your company. Some bar girls, especially those from go-go bars, beer bars, or hostess bars, might be under pressure to get back quickly to continue making money. If she’s not particularly enjoying the encounter, expect signals, often not subtle ones, that it’s time to wrap it up. Comments like “Are you almost finished?” or “I’m getting tired” are common red flags indicating she’s ready to leave.The reality is simple: short time typically lasts as long as it takes you to finish. This isn’t something you negotiate explicitly beforehand, it’s understood by both parties. But keep in mind, if you drag things out too long, you risk creating a rushed or uncomfortable scenario. It’s essential to stay realistic about what short-time actually entails: a single round of intimacy, not a leisurely afternoon or evening.
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Short-time encounters are best viewed as straightforward fun, while long-time experiences should be cultivated carefully and respectfully
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Long Time: Overnight Stays and Realistic Expectations
Long-time arrangements are meant to be overnight, sometimes extending into the next morning or afternoon. Typically, long time involves spending more relaxed time together, perhaps dinner, drinks, some nightlife, and intimacy throughout the night or again the next morning. But here’s the catch: just because you pay for long time doesn’t always mean you’ll get it.
One of the biggest rookie mistakes I see is guys taking a girl long time straight out of the bar on their first meeting. That’s usually a mistake. Often, if there’s no chemistry, what ends up happening is you essentially pay double the short-time rate for what ends up being a short-time encounter. She decides she isn’t feeling it, wants to leave early, or gives excuses to head out early in the morning. You’ve paid long-time prices but received short-time services.
The better strategy, and this is confirmed repeatedly by guys who’ve been successful here, is to start with short time first. See if you both enjoy each other’s company. After your initial encounter, casually ask if she’d like to grab some food. If she agrees, you’ve opened the door to a genuine long-time experience. Often, if the vibe is right, she’ll even suggest staying longer herself.
This approach has multiple benefits:
- You avoid overpaying. If there’s no chemistry, you’ve only invested short-time rates.
- You ensure mutual interest. If she wants to stay, she’ll show genuine interest and initiative.
- You avoid awkwardness. If she’s got obligations, family responsibilities, or simply isn’t into it, you won’t feel cheated or misled.
Remember, even when chemistry is there, sometimes she’ll decline due to personal obligations. Respect that. It’s not always about you, your looks, your money, or your charm. People have lives and responsibilities beyond what you see.
A Word About Expectations and Realities
Here’s another important reminder: You don’t dictate the market. You’re participating in an established system. Many newcomers mistakenly think that paying money grants total control over every aspect of the encounter. That’s not how this works. These women are free agents; they set their own boundaries and expectations. Your role is to clearly express your intentions and confirm that you both have the same understanding before leaving the bar or club.
If you fail to clarify expectations upfront, don’t get frustrated when things don’t go as imagined. The market here isn’t about control, it’s about mutual agreement. Clarify terms early, pay attention to body language and subtle signals, and don’t be shy about explicitly asking, “Is everything good?” or “Are we on the same page?”
Final Advice: Keep It Fun, Clear, and Simple
Whether you prefer short time or long time, always maintain clear communication, stay respectful, and manage your expectations realistically. Short-time encounters are best viewed as straightforward fun, while long-time experiences should be cultivated carefully and respectfully, ideally with someone you’ve connected with.
If you follow these simple tips, you’ll not only avoid disappointment, you’ll significantly enhance your overall experience in Thailand. Remember, your goal should always be mutual enjoyment and respect, not just a simple transaction.
That’s all I got for today.
Stay smart, stay sharp and most of all stay real.
It’s your boy JC, peace out.
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